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2006 beetle (2.5l) w/ coolant sprayed *UP* in engine bay, p0301, p2181, p2279..?

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Hi all, OK my sister has a 2006 VW beetle, with the 2.5 L five cylinder engine… She broke down yesterday with a flashing check engine light, I went out to where she was stranded and found the car looked to have no coolant visible in the reservoir, I ran OBD2 codes On it and God P0301, P2279, P2181… I put more coolant in, started it up and the coolant just seem to vanish, Not under the car either… I found coolant puddle on top of the engine, where the coils are, and the padding on the underside of hood was sodden with coolant, Like it had Sprayed straight up somehow. Oil was very low, car misfires badly and idles real low. Can anyone offer me any tips on how to troubleshoot, any ideas what might have gone catastrophically wrong? I’m pretty adept with mechanical issues, although I haven’t worked on a ton of VW’s.

my plan is to take a look at the plugs initially, and see if I can locate anywhere up top where the coolant could have vented in that direction from what I understand head gasket failure is very uncommon on this motor but it was my first thought coming from the Toyota camp…

Many thanks in advance for any who could offer any suggestions, thanks all.
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Hi billymade, I appreciate your fast response, I haven’t looked up the codes but was more confused about the apparent coolant loss over the engine, unsure where that would originate or what kind of problem that would be indicative of… about to go get a better look at her now.
On the low coolant issue, it can be hard to find the source of the leak, on these vw’s; i have found, using a cooling system pressure tester, is the best and quickest way, to pinpoint the source of the coolant leak.

Note: VW’s use allot if plastic parts in the cooling system: these are known to crack and cause leaks.

I use this one, that has the correct coolant bottle adapter for vw’s and it is typically in stock at harbor freight. (There are other brands and better quality kits but this one is not bad for the price with a HF 20% off coupon).

Radiator Pressure Tester Kit

Beyond that, if you suspect a head gasket is causing the coolant to get burned in the cylinders; a combustion leak test or leak down test would be next. Most auto parts stores, have these for sale or rent.

Combustion leak tester:

Leak down tester:

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The vacuum/pcv leak, is a classic 2.5L problem; you can buy a aftermarket pcv repair kit, that replaces the rubber diaphragm and cap, instead of the whole intake manifold (vw only sold the whole assembly; not separately). We discuss this issue here:

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For the cooling system trouble code, review the ross tech link; freeze frame info, can help narrow down the problem to either the coolant temp sensor or the thermostat.

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Since you’re getting spray on top of the engine, check the small coolant return hose that goes into the coolant ball. The plastic nipple that small hose is attached to is prone to cracking and allowing coolant to spray on top of the engine.
Hey all, many thanks for your replies… I have made some progress, well of sorts I suppose.

so I located how the coolant was escaping… I found the two “spigots” at the firewall on driver side where assumedly they both visit and then return from the heater core, the left hand spigot had both the lower, larger fitting broken off in the hose, and the smaller forward facing line on the same fitting also snapped off… conveniently leaving somewhat of a derringer barrel pointed like a squirtgun directly onto the top the engine, explaining the large quantity of coolant I found on top soaking into the spark plug chambers…

I was able to pull the coils and found all but one of them had a white dried residue on the metal body’s, along with white dried powdery residue within the sleeve at the bottom that connects to the spark plug itself… I was unable to pull the plug themselves as I was lacking the correct size magnetic socket, not sure what size is required but going to try to obtain one later today. There was a lot of coolant that leaked down around the coils though, is it likely to assume that the plugs were ruined due to this deluge? Fouled?

surmising that perhaps the heater core could be clogged, and the obviously proprietary nature of the heater core port I decided to bypass the core altogether, looping the inlet and outlet together directly with a brass fitting and clamps… i also connected the small line that was part of the left-hand connector into this fitting, although I am not sure this is appropriate or not for this application, as I don’t know it’s function… no more coolant loss, and whichever code was related to coolant system failure is no longer present, the code relating to unmetered air entering intake is also gone now, but unfortunately I am still getting the following… misfire city.

P0300, P0301, P0302, P0304, P0305, P0303 (in this order!)

idle is poor… like 650-800, hunting terribly and will eventually stall out if left to idle… coolant isn’t moving in reservoir, although it isn’t achieving operating temp so maybe this is to be expected? Highest temp I could reach before stalling out was 138…

when running engine seems sputtery and stumbling, it’s not a raucous clanking event like I’m familiar with over in the Toyota camp with our head-gasket plagued 3rd-gen Prius’s, and no smoke from the tailpipe whatsoever… a weird side note, on a hunch I unplugged the MAF sensor and tried starting up again… while no where near perfect, engine idled dramatically smoother afterwards… so I’m assuming the MAF (and perhaps the intake itself) was inundated with coolant as well, planning on trying to clean the MAF later today…

so… can anyone give me some logical next steps here? Would love to get this car back on the road, as I am now stuck ferrying my sister about town for the foreseeable future… any advice would be greatly appreciated friends, many thanks!
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My thought is the coolant has wet the plugs and coils. I would dry everything off especially the coils, clear the codes and see what comes back after you start it again. It’s possible that the plugs and coils just need to be dried off and they will be fine.

As far as bypassing the heating system, your sister is not going to like that part much. You’ll go from hero to zero in short order. The heater core may be clogged if the coolant is brownish or green instead of pink or violet. It depends on what she has put in for coolant. OEM VW coolant is pink or violet , mixing any other coolant including the yellow “good for anything” gives you a brownish sludge that clogs the cooling system.

If the car ran better with the MAF unplugged then the MAF is either wet also or bad. Only replace with a genuine Bosch MAF. You can try cleaning but usually that is not successful.
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Wondering also.
hi again all… the car was not available to me after this initial posting, as my sister is of the ‘drive it till the wheels fall off’ mentality, but it has come home to darken my doorstep yet again, I have made a new thread concerning it at:


I didn’t think to continue this thread initially, as things seem to have progressed but will try to if directed… any input regarding the latest state would be greatly appreciated as always though, thanks all.
I would continue woking in this thread and that way the history older issues we have discussed are documented, new issues are in context, you can refer back to things, as you progress, thanks.

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ok, after a hiatus and a trip to a mechanics shop which offered no relief whatsoever this car is once again dwelling in my driveway and yearning for the open road

the shop she brought the vehicle to ended up keeping it for 2 weeks before finally informing her it needs a head gasket job, some kind of suspension work and would cost a minimum of $3k to perform… since I had seen the car up close so recently, and had specifically been looking for symptoms of blown head gasket (milkshake on inner side of oil cap, oil in coolant, white smoke etc) I was somewhat hesitant to believe the diagnosis without some proof. I sent a msg asking how it was determined to need a head gasket, if a leakdown or compression test had been used, but got no response. my sister soon received a call that she should pick the car up, and that it would have taken them a minimum of 5 weeks to do the work anyways (???); she picks it up, NO CHARGE WHATSOEVER! seems odd to me but…

fast-forward to today… car is in my driveway. under hood no visible sign they even took the plugs out so I doubt any sort of compression test was performed. sounds godawful when started up. nope, immediately shut down. running this rough I want to examine plugs (about 1 month old with very minimal driving), pull all plugs; I find that all look the same except the #2 plug (from the left), absolutely SOAKED in wet oil, comes out dripping visibly. the other four look relatively normal, maybe a little toasted?

checked for codes with a standard ELM27 Bluetooth adapter (rev 1.5)… I get the following:

P3081 (I have dumped coolant so maybe why for this one)

so, any ideas? extremely concerned about that #2 plug being so wet with oil, never seen that before nor do I know what it means… is this indicative of a blown head gasket for this car? I normally work on my Prius and they are prone to head gasket failure, but from what I’ve read about this generation of New Beetle it is almost unheard of…

anyone who could offer any opinion or attack plan I would greatly appreciate it… I should mention, still no milkshake under oil cap, still no visible oil in coolant, coolant did seem to be leaking under the reservoir tank though… I do have a new thermostat for the vehicle, and was preparing to work my way towards the water pump to pull and bench test, as before I dumped coolant the times I tried starting her up I wasn’t seeing the level in coolant reservoir going down, even though the engine was rapidly achieving high temps.

if this is likely to end up being a head gasket job I want to make my way down to where I can check whether the piston heads all line up evenly or not before ordering any more parts, im thinking if they do not then It’s time to consider whether swapping a working pulled motor in makes more sense.

thanks for any input friends, the efforts to help from those who inhabit the fora are, as always, greatly appreciated.
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16684/P0300/000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
16684/P0300/000768 - Ross-Tech Wiki

16685/P0301/000769 - Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected

16686/P0302/000770 - Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected

19537/P3081/012417 - Engine Temperature too Low

18711/P2279/008825 - Leak in Air Intake System

16555/P0171/000369 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1: System Too Lean 16555/P0171/000369 - Ross-Tech Wiki
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Ok, we have been getting quite a few 2.5L troubleshooting discussions lately and they are right in line with your codes (in particular the P0171 lean code). You might review this one here:

2006 2.5 gas issues

In his case, his leak code; brought up a number of issues with vacuum leaks (PCV diaphragm bad, cylinder head had a big vacuum leak, from missing "cam plugs" that looked like freeze plugs, you normally see in a blocks water jacket). We went on to test the fuel pressure but still haven't gotten a definite test on the maf sensor.

Another thread lately, had a lean code as well; he replaced the fuel filter, then he found through testing, it ended up being a fuel pump with low pressure @ 25% under spec and a new pump solved the problem.

If you are still thinking the head gasket is suspect and want to rule that out from the outset, a combustion leak tester maybe a quick way to check that with only the removal of the coolant tank cap, being required to do that test. if it fails the test, then you could go with a leak down or compression test, to narrow down things further.

Let us know, how you are going to tackle the first diag steps and we can discuss things further. Thanks.

PS: the above threads, pretty much go through; the same type of info and testing procedures, I would recommend you should try and that way, we don't have to rehash and replicate the same info all over again. :)
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Thanks for that billy made, I have been going through some of the threads you referenced already, I was hopeful about the cam plugs as the symptoms sounded so similar but mine do seem intact… can you comment about the single plug I found being soaked in wet oil, while all others display a pretty normal burn? Is the presence of liquid oil in the chamber indicative of a head gasket problem, or not necessarily?
thx again
I guess, that is a open question; i think it would be good to rule out a possible head gasket issue and clear away, all the “doom& gloom” diagnosis, the repair shop, seemed to put on the Car. Do you have any testing equipment? I think, you can rent a combustion leak tester, compression tester, leak down or fuel pressure tester at most auto parts stores fir free.

Needless, to say, if a major repair is needed; like a head gasket, all of the other issues, should be put on the back burner, until that issue is repaired (head tested, checked out by a machine shop, face shaved,etc, etc.

Let me know, what testing you are willing to do and if major repairs are needed, if you would have the desire or ability to go that deep i to things, etc.

First, ruling out the possible head gasket issue; can help guide, you to do next?

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