[Symo]

I have a 2000 with MTM stage 3 modifications. I see a lot of people on here talking about APR etc. Was just curious how they stacked up etc. I'm the new owner of the beetle, it was my friend's. I'm trying to learn as much about all this stuff as possible.

This is their website: http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.html

Thanks, and I'm looking forward to tapping the wealth of knowledge that is here on NewBeetle!

Thanks!!

 

[v-dubed]

never heard of them... and i done see anything about stg 3 stuff.. all i see is chips and exhaust.

 

[Symo]

Its the last one on their site for VW beetle:

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/vw_kit_BEETLE110_MBEE150232FX.html

Basically replaced turbo, injectors, exhaust, and chipped.

 

[v-dubed]

its all im metric.. looks like is a k04 or a 28r... looks good to me tho

 

[noR]

I've heard of them. They've been around forever. Haven't made a big splash in the US market, but they're HUGE over in Europe. They're also touted as one of the BEST tuning companies for vw's.

Your friend might have been doin' his research when he was doing his upgrades... good news for you.

I'm not sure how they stack up, but if you can get a dyno of yours and compare it to the online dyno's of apr's that'll give you an idea.

I imagine it's pretty slick; but I dunno if it really compares closely w/ APR's stage 3.

Can you tell me what all was included in that upgrade? Looks like turbo, injectors, ecu, and exhaust... was there more?

APR says their stage 3 is 290HP/300ft/lbs,
MTM says 232HP/250ft/lbs.

There's your comparison. I imagine they're both very smooth on power delivery as well.

 

[Lony]

Its a K04-001 Kit. mtm is indeed very famous here in Germany, one of the most expensive tuners you can go to. They have a very good reputation and knowledge about the 1.8t engine. But if you compare it to a APR stage 3 - you loose. The mtm numbers are CRANK HP, that is araound 195 WHP.

 

[1.8TurboS]

^^ so thats basically less than what most 1.8Ters can get on a stock turbo?

 

[Lony]

^^ so thats basically less than what most 1.8Ters can get on a stock turbo?

Yes this kit was developed for the early 1.8t beetles (avc, aph), but with a 2001+ you can also get close to this numbers with chip + catback.

 

[oneighturbo]

what noR said. MTM is one of the hottest euro tuners.

just look at what they did with the bimoto TT
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/highlights_mtm_bimoto_tt.html

heres their page for the NB
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/vw_tuning_BEETLE110.html

 

[paultakeda]

The only MTM dealer in the US is Hoppen Motorsport in Florida: http://www.hoppenmotorsport.com. Kinda makes it hard for product penetration when you have a shop of one.