[amebb]

Can anyone give me some advice please?

I have a 2.0 2000 VW new beetle, Its an automatic.

What i have noticed is that when its hot and I am driving i have issues with the gears.

Sometimes the gear does not go from 3rd to 4th or when in forth if i accelerate the revs go up but the speed is the same, it slips.

So, any ideas what the issue could be? I was thinking of changing the gear box oil and filter as this has not been done whilst i have owned thecar.

Thank you

 

[Hal9000]

This may be no consolation however Extreme heat and cold will uncover many issues. On my last 2013 beetle tdi dsg Trans I did the oil changes and timing belt at 60 k intervals. @ around 120k the ground straps from the body to the engine. This averted many issues I found out later.

 

[amebb]

This may be no consolation however Extreme heat and cold will uncover many issues. On my last 2013 beetle tdi dsg Trans I did the oil changes and timing belt at 60 k intervals. @ around 120k the ground straps from the body to the engine. This averted many issues I found out later.

Thank you for your advice.

I am thinking of changing the gear box oil over the weekend and hopefully that would help.

Thanks

 

[billymade]

You have the 01M most likely, we see a wide range of issues with sticking solenoids and worn valve body, being the most common things, that causes shifting issues. Other external things, like a bad shifter assembly, damaged wiring harnesses, plugs, etc; have been found as well. Then, worst case scenario; there could be internal issues, that would require; full disassembly, inspection of worn parts and essentially, a rebuild. However, we see a high rate of success with rebuilt valve bodies and/or diagnosis, that can indicate other issues, that don't' require a trans pull. Some members here; after diagnosis, have installed a rebult valve body themselves; new fluid, filter and reset the kick down settings, have had a vast improvement in the gear change function.

So, the first step; would be to correctly diagnose the problem and that would require a VW factory level scan tool, like VCDS by Ross Tech or equivalent. Then, you can scan for codes; do testing with live data and confirm, the various parts of the trans, are working as they should.

Here is a video, showing VCDS; testing a 01M trans and reading live data, to check things out.

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So, it is best, to attempt to diagnose the problem intelligently with a VW factory level scan tool and this can be done yourself, then that can guide you to your next step or give you an idea, of needed repairs.

Let us know, if you want to diagnose and attempt to fix things yourself, we can go from there, discuss things further. Thanks.

 

[amebb]

You have the 01M most likely, we see a wide range of issues with sticking solenoids and worn valve body, being the most common things, that causes shifting issues. Other external things, like a bad shifter assembly, damaged wiring harnesses, plugs, etc; have been found as well. Then, worst case scenario; there could be internal issues, that would require; full disassembly, inspection of worn parts and essentially, a rebuild. However, we see a high rate of success with rebuilt valve bodies and/or diagnosis, that can indicate other issues, that don't' require a trans pull. Some members here; after diagnosis, have installed a rebult valve body themselves; new fluid, filter and reset the kick down settings, have had a vast improvement in the gear change function.

So, the first step; would be to correctly diagnose the problem and that would require a VW factory level scan tool, like VCDS by Ross Tech or equivalent. Then, you can scan for codes; do testing with live data and confirm, the various parts of the trans, are working as they should.

Here is a video, showing VCDS; testing a 01M trans and reading live data, to check things out.

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So, it is best, to attempt to diagnose the problem intelligently with a VW factory level scan tool and this can be done yourself, then that can guide you to your next step or give you an idea, of needed repairs.

Let us know, if you want to diagnose and attempt to fix things yourself, we can go from there, discuss things further. Thanks.

Thank you so much for your detailed response - much appreciated.

I would like to start by using the diagnostic software first so i can establish where the issues are.

Once i get under the car and remove the bottom cover for the gear box i would visually be able to see any issues - such as broken harness etc.

My first task is to obtain the diagnostic software. I will search on the net, but if you guys have any good pointers, they are always most welcome.

Thank you for your help

Paul

 

[billymade]

There is VCDS by Ross Tech $199, OBDeleven $65-$100 and the many Chinese knockoff VAG scanners on Amazon. Being able to scan for codes is one thing but viewing live data can be crucial to diagnose problems and doing things like resetting the kick down, settings etc.

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[amebb]

There is VCDS by Ross Tech $199, OBDeleven $65-$100 and the many Chinese knockoff VAG scanners on Amazon. Being able to scan for codes is one thing but viewing live data can be crucial to diagnose problems and doing things like resetting the kick down, settings etc.

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Thank you for your help.

 

[amebb]

UPDATE

I mnaged to use a fault code reader and this is the fault that has come up:-

Error Code 01192 Torque Converter Lock Up Clutch.

Does anyone have any ideas where i can find information on how to fix this please?

Thank you

 

[billymade]

01192 - Ross-Tech Wiki

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[amebb]

01192 - Ross-Tech Wiki

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Thank you

I have been reading that the N91 Solenoid in the valve body may be sticking?

 

[billymade]

What scan tool; are you using?


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[amebb]

What scan tool; are you using?


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Its a small Alcatel device.

I have used it to read the codes on the car.

 

[billymade]

A VW specific factory level scan tool; like vcds by ross tech, would enable you to read live data and this might help pinpoint specific problems.

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[amebb]

A VW specific factory level scan tool; like vcds by ross tech, would enable you to read live data and this might help pinpoint specific problems.

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I am sure that the software will be able to give me more data to find out what the issue is. Then agaiin the software is around $200 and i am trying to save money.
Using my diagnostic tool has shown me some issues that i can look at

Thank you

 

[billymade]

Well, the live data can be crucial; to figure out, what is going in vs. a static trouble code.

Other cheaper options could be OBDEleven @ $69-$100 or one of the knockoff Chinese “VAG” scanner; however, i don’t know, if they would do the same thing as VCDS, as i haven’t tried it. OBDEleven, is supposed to have similar capabilities as VCDS but you would beed to buy the $100 pro-version.


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[billymade]

The thing is with VCDS by Ross Tech; it is a solid, very mature product; developed and supported in the USA with their own support forum, call in support, etc. i asked a question in-their support forums the the CEO of the company answered my questions; on a SUNDAY night no less! This level of support; is amazing and yiu just won’t find this from OBDEleven which is supported from Eastern Europe or the Chinese scanners, support is hit or miss at best, typically nonexistent.


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[billymade]

The $199 VCDS cost is a investment in VW/Audi specialized factory level scan tool; is worth it, if you are attempting to diy the repairs and save money in the long run (say install a rebuilt valve body, etc).

While, the tool isn’t “magic” per se (you still need to deduce things; do troubleshooting, testing, do a process of elimination); it can potentially, really help diagnose things and narrow down problem, reset things like the kick down settings, view live data, on clutch lockup status, (in real time), view shift solenoids actuating as they help the trans shift, speed sensors showing their readings, the shifter position to see if it is broken or not, all this as you drive the vehicle, confirm things are working as they should be, etc.

Typically, taking VW in for a professional transmission shifting problem diagnosis, will cost more purchasing VCDS and pay for itself, in its first use and then, help confirm, you have successful repair.

Most VW dealers or VW repair shops; are now charging over $100 USD per hour labor rate and so, it doesn’t take much, to charge, what the VCDS costs to purchase it, then that $199, you will still OWN the tool itself, rather then them giving you a estimate and still being out the diag fees.

I have been using VCDS since 2007, back when it cost $350 and it has saved me thousands of dollars; by enabling me to "diy" my own repairs and allowing me to avoid taking it to costly VW dealership service depts or other VW specialists.

Quite frankly, my 02’ Turbo S with over 100k and a daily driver for over 20+ years; would not be on the road today without it!

Worst case, because the Ross Tech VCDS is in demand and used all over the world, on a daily basis; later, if you didn't need it anymore, you can resell it for close or sometimes more, then the $199 you paid for it!


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[billymade]

PS: if you cannot afford $199; there are other cheaper alternatives but VCDS by Ross Tech is probably the best VW scan tool and while more oney up front, it HOLDS its VALUE and will resale for more, then OBDEleven or a Chinese knockoff scanner, off of Amazon.

 

[billymade]

I think the best things moving forward; is to try to get a solid diagnosis on the tranmission and then, you can decide to fix it or consider, what to do about the car, if repair isn't a financially viable option, at this time. Or, if it isn't fulfilling your transportation needs adequately; swapping out the car for another brand, that isn't so maintenance intensive or a more reliable type of car, might be better?

 

[amebb]

I think the best things moving forward; is to try to get a solid diagnosis on the tranmission and then, you can decide to fix it or consider, what to do about the car, if repair isn't a financially viable option, at this time. Or, if it isn't fulfilling your transportation needs adequately; swapping out the car for another brand, that isn't so maintenance intensive or a more reliable type of car, might be better?

Hi there
Thank you for your replies.

You are correct and i do need software that can give me real time data so i can find what the issue could be.

I noticed that last week in the UK we had very high tempertures and the gears were slipping. Today,the tempurture is lower and I am not getting the same issue - unless the car is driven over a long period of time.

To start with i will either goto a garage to get the codes scanned etc with the correct software. Then i will change the gear box tranmission fluid and fluid filter.

That way i can have a look inside to get some kind of visual inspection to see what the issue could be.

Thank you