what kind of speakers did you get squirreljuice?Yeah my Rockford Fosgates didn't need rings. I was kind of surprised myself but I was pretty happy that I didn't have to do as much fabrication. The rear ones won't need anything if you get big enough speakers to fill the hole. The speaker itself is only like 5", but the whole housing pushes it up into the 6-7" range. If you go smaller than the 6.75 inch speakers, you will probably need a ring or an adapter plate of some kind just to get the speaker to stay in there.