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Ours was accidental. Neither of us ever had plans to be parents. Frankly, I was unconvinced that I could bring a child up to be a good adult.

FWIW, antibiotics and birth control pills don't work, and one week after going off antibiotics is NOT enough time.

That being said, Morgan is the best thing that EVER happened to us, and we were lucky enough that Laura was willing to stay home with him for his first eight or so years. He's a terrific kid, thanks to her.

My policy. No more than one child per parental hand. ;)
 

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Clean up on aisle 3!!!!

This is a continuation from Amy's thread found here: http://newbeetle.org/forums/miscellaneous-hoo-ha/38451-61-year-old-man-slaps-crying-2-year-old-walmart.html


I respect Amy too much to allow my comments to get her thread closed, so I'm cleaning up a little of what I said over there and moving it over here. :D

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I actually wanted to say "good for him!" but I didn't want to start anything that would get Amy's thread locked/moved.

I don't think most animals have the cognitive ability to understand violence but children should be able to wrap their tiny little brains around it.
I know what to say...Its something that most of us have probably 'imagined' doing at some point or another but have the decency and respect not to do so.

If you have a loud/cranky kid, DON'T take him/her in public. I don't want to be 'inconvenienced' because others feel the need to procreate.
I'm curious to know how hard he actually hit her...Was it a full on 'bitch slap' like Stephen gave Irene during Real World's Seattle show (Vintage Real World: Seattle's Stephen & Irene In "The Slap Heard 'Round The World" - Top - Jezebel [LANGUAGE] or was it a light 'tap' to get the mother's attention? Yeah, Yeah Yeah! Either way, its obviously wrong what he did but I'm curious either way. Sure it left red mark on the kids face. I guess everyone who seems to be so up in arms over the situation should just be glad they weren't in home appliances where he could have easily tossed her in the microwave.

Its disrespectful and selfish to expose the people to an unruly child just because YOU need something. Part of having a kid is having the ability to control them. If people can't control them and make them behave - perhaps they shouldn't be parents. :rolleyes:
In an ideal world that would be great...At least until an age where they can properly behave. Its the same concept of why pets aren't allowed in stores. Its more likely than not that an unruly child will be distracting and a general nuisance to other shoppers which is rude. If your kid can be well behaved and quiet, I have no problem with it. Once the child 'turns' and becomes unruly and obnoxious, its time to be respectful to those around you and LEAVE!

Kids in vehicles can be just as (or even more?) distracting than a driver texting but that's for another thread.


Don't have any. Don't want any. Will never have any. But this isn't about me. Its about common decency and respecting others in your environment.
All I'm saying here is that if you're going to have kids, be considerate of those around you. :)
 

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Oooo! kids! I want one.. or two.

Its a personal choice but some people seriously should NOT have kids!

You ever notice that smarter people have less kids than morons?.. no wonder we cant get rid of the "stupid" gene....
 

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I know that for a lot of people (my parents included) Marriage with out children is just dating with a contract.

Personally I am against children for myself. I like kids and truly enjoy my 3 nieces so it's not for that reason. My reasons stem back to preadoption traumas and other personal issues that I do not want to inflict upon children. So I have chose to remove myself from the gene pool. This is my choice *note the word my not your). What you decide to do is none of my business and I will be happy with whatever you decide as long as it isn't bad for the children involved.

Go fourth into the world. Be fruitful and multiply... or not. Your choice. :)
 

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Its a personal choice but some people seriously should NOT have kids!

You ever notice that smarter people have less kids than morons?.. no wonder we cant get rid of the "stupid" gene....
You should see the movie Idiocracy. The premise of the movie is that smart people stop breeding and the IQ of the general population goes in the toilet. Its a really funny movie.
 

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You should see the movie Idiocracy. The premise of the movie is that smart people stop breeding and the IQ of the general population goes in the toilet. Its a really funny movie.
That movie scared me more than it made me laugh! :eek: I sometimes do feel like the less-than-intelligent types seem to keep breeding and breeding and breeding and breeding...
 

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i didn't want kids.

frankly, my vws have always been my children as they eat up just as much money and time.

that being said, audrey is the BEST thing to ever happen to me and i wouldn't change that for the world.

i do know some people that have kids for the sake of food stamps, tax breaks, and section 8. it's sad, really is, but in the end, the people that will suffer won't be the people who pay taxes, but the children.
 

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i do know some people that have kids for the sake of food stamps, tax breaks, and section 8. it's sad, really is, but in the end, the people that will suffer won't be the people who pay taxes, but the children.
People in the foster care system are in that for the same reason. My parents are foster parents and its really a shame that some of the kids aren't really cared for. So many people just keep having kids but there are so many in the system that need loving homes and so many forget that. I'm open to adoption if I want to have more than one child. I feel continuing to have your own children when there are so many out there already is a bit selfish at times.
 

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I think being a parent is very selfish in the general term. You want to show off you, in a way, by having kids. You aren't thinking of the stress it puts on a overly taxed planet when you have kids. We don't, as a race, need any more kids; we aren't going to disappear any time soon. So IMV, it's very selfish to have kids.

Good thing I never had any.
Exactly! I think much of society in 'brainwashed' into believing that certain things are expected of them in life. You go to school, you get a career, you get married, you reproduce, and then you die.

I'm encouraged that many younger people today are breaking the 'traditions' ingrained into our society for so many years. Its boring and predictable.
 

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Because it needs to be done, maybe?
Get a sitter or make other arrangements.

I live 30ish minutes away from the closest decent store. I'm not gonna pack up my kid because he's having a meltdown, just to make you happy.
The fact that you even said that shows exactly how self-centered people can be. Its not just ONE person that you'd be making uncomfortable [read annoyed] its the majority of the population that you would encounter. Are you saying you have no regard for other people's feelings just because YOU don't want to be inconvenienced? :dunno: :confused:

Because if he's having a meltdown over a sensory issue this time, he's just gonna do it again the next time we come.
Sounds to me like he should stay at home.

And I'm not going to just leave him home like a dog either.
I'm not saying keep him in a cage or on a leash...Just make other arrangements out of consideration of others.

That wouldn't help him try to learn how to deal with what's causing that overload.
That's what therapy and specialists are for. Not fieldtrips to Wally World.
 
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