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Hey there, I'm interested in this beetle I found near home as a winter beater/possibly everyday driver, I know nothing about Volkswagen's at all as Iv never owned one yet :) I'm currently driving my 97 eclipse gst spyder everyday as the gf is using the other car so I need to find a car soon and I like like cars that are different :) I fix all my own stuff so maintenance isn't a problem for me, owning a dsm practically requires a bank account just for the car because something brakes every week, lol.

So back to the beetle, its a 2000 Volkswagen New Beetle 2Dr GLS with the 2.0L, it's pretty good shape body and interior wise and also has navigation built in which is a nice touch I thought. The car is a trade in and there asking $1000 but iv got him down to $800 if I take it, so I was looking around on the forums for regular issues/problems or things to look for when buying one of these cars. I went and looked at it yesterday, I know or at least think that it needs a starter already. The dealer said it drove in there just fine and sound good engine and tranny wise as they have moved it around the lot. It has power to everything and as I can tell everything works in the car. the back hatch pops with the button but the handle wont move.

So as I said its close to home and I can take a look at it any time. What should I be looking for? What common problems do they have? Should I even consider getting into a car like this? I could only look under it while it was on the ground but he says he will get it going and put it up for me to look at.

Thanks in advance and hopefully I will be on here bugging you guys some more and iv attached a picture of the car :)
 

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Hey, it sounds like a good price; is it a auto or stick? The autos are notorious for valve body issues; I would not buy a auto, unless you are willing to spend the money to repair or replace it. If you are unsure; about the condition of the New Beetle you are looking at, I recommend you take it to a professional shop that specializes in Volkswagens. Better to have a pro look at it; then be stuck with a car, that has a bunch of problems that you didn't know it had. Get a CAR FAX and have a pro; look it over for you. Good luck!

Note: this is a 15 year old car; so, be prepared to spend a decent amount of money reconditioning it; for it to be a reliable daily driver and you WILL be working on it! At the vintage, miles and it being a German/European car; they require quite a bit of attention and the learning curve to keep them running, it can be a challenge. These are NOT like Hondas and Toyotas; where you can ignore them, they require consistent maintenance (they cannot be ignored). If you are up for the challenge; we are here to help! Get a pro to check it out for you; better safe than sorry! :)
 

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Hey there, thanks for the reply. I don't drive anything auto except the gf's G6 cause she can't drive stick so ya its a 5 speed stick.

Taking it to a pro might be hard and cost a bit. I don't know any shop around here that specializes in them besides a dealer. Plus the cost of a tow truck around as the starter is gone.

So I'm more looking into seeing how it feels driving around the lot and just trying to spot out any key areas or components of the car that might be bad.

Are they bad on suspension parts like tie rods, bushings, ball joints, etc....?
 

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Well, a stick is more durable and the way to go; plus, more fun to drive with. The 2.0L; is not a very powerful engine and the stick is the best way to get the most out of it.

The lower control arm bushings are the most common problems but at 15 years, the whole front end could need a refresh. There are a number of places that sell full kits to do the whole thing; of course, it probably needs struts as well.

Check out these links for diy and suspension/strut kits:

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=UTF-8#q=vw new beetle suspension refresh kit

If you cannot or are unwilling to take it to a pro; to have it checked out, you just have to decide to roll the dice at $800. Worst case scenario; you could probably resell it and probably get your money out of it, if you had to.

A high quality brand new Bosch oem starter on amazon; is about $160 and a rebuilt one from Autozone is about $120.

Bosch SR0425N / 0001121026 New Starter
by Bosch

For future reference; there DO seem to be quite a few independent VW repair shops in your area: (just overlook the vw dealerships):

https://www.google.com/search?q=Ont...ha=0&tbm=lcl&rlfi=hd:;si:16754845333574213882

These guys in particular; sell tons of used parts and you might get a used starter cheap, if you are short on cash:

Canada Catalyst Inc. Quality Used VW Parts & Pre Owned VW Dealership
Used Auto Parts Store
Address: 12710 Furnival Rd, Rodney, ON N0L 2C0, Canada
Phone:+1 519-878-3353
Hours: Open today · 8:00 am – 5:00 pm
 

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If you take it to a reliable Beetle specialist (not a dealer!), normally they'll charge you like US$100 to give a complete check and let you know what needs to be done. Check at CarFax to see if it's been kept up on regular service and how many owners it's had. Good luck!
 

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Ok boys and girls, its seems as if I will be the proud owner of a new beetle gls come Monday morning :)

First I want to say thank you to billymade as I called Canada Catalyst Inc. Quality Used VW Parts & Pre Owned VW Dealership and they have everything I could possibly need for it :)

I'v already priced out everything to rebuild the front end new, so I'm going to order up the energy suspension front and rear control arm bushings along with the Lower Torque Position mount insert and sway bar bushings from my local performance shop. I just need to find out the size of the sway bar if it's 21mm or 23mm...
I'll be getting inner and outer tie rods along with ball joints, brakes all around and e-brake cables (I think e-brake is seized or cables are broken) from my local parts store. The starter and anything else I might need I can get from the place that billymade found :)

She has a small hole in the driver rocker that needs fixed for safety easy done as I have a welder and all the metal I need at home :) but till I go thru it all that's about it that I can tell it needs.

I'm super excited about the car, there aren't to many in my area that really stand out so I have a few thoughts in mind come spring time for her :)

So it looks as if I will be around with lots of updates and questions I'm sure as I can't ever just leave my cars alone! Lol

Thanks for all your help guys! Ill post pictures Monday when I get her home. :)
 

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Some urethane bushings are ok BUT the rear trailing arm bushings are NOT recommended. Check out this thread; for more info: VWVortex.com - Why (Rear) Poly Bushings Are Bad

For best of both worlds; with NO voids (solid; compared to stock) and still having rubber (less noise), check out the VAG oem bushings used in other cars in VAG line of cars, in this case SEAT Cupra R's.

HOW TO: Rear beam axle bushes (Cupra R bushes) - D.I.Y Guides and How to Instructions - uk-mkivs

These guys; seem to have the best deal going @ $50 for a pair:

Audi, VW Axle Bushing (Rear, Mk4, Seat Cupra R) 6LL501541 by Febi Bilstein | Europa Parts


By Febi Bilstein
Euro-spec Seat Cupra R OEM rear axle bushing that also fits Mk4 chassis cars. These are stiffer than the stock OEM bushings and provide a more controlled ride.

Axle Bushing (Rear, Mk4, Seat Cupra R) is available for purchase in increments of 2


I used the Audi TT/R32 heavy duty bushings for the lower control arms and some poly bushings as well:

MK2/MK3/MK4 Rear R32 Control Arm Bushings (Pair)
Item# 8N0407181BG
$39.99


The ever popular modification for all VW control arms MK2 through MK4 that replaces the factory bushing with a full solid R32/TT rubber bushing for added stiffness and control. Just press out your old bushing and press these in for better handling and performance. Sold in pairs.

MK2/MK3/MK4 Rear Control Arm Bushings


MK2/MK3/MK4 Polyurethane Front Control Arm Bushings - Graphite Impregnated (Pair)
Item# SMK24PCABB $14.99

These are direct replacement polyurethane front control arm bushings for all MK2 through MK4 vehicles. Two piece construction makes installation into your control arm simple and eliminates the need for a press. Additionally, these bushings are graphite impregnated which means they are self lubricating to help prevent binding and squeaking. However, you should still lubricate these bushings during installation. Sold in pairs, as pictured.

Fits: All MK2 through MK4 vehicles, excluding R32.

MK2/MK3/MK4 Polyurethane Front Control Arm Bushings - Graphite Impregnated


They offer; lower control arms with bushings already, pressed in. This is just ONE of many vendors; that offer these but I thought I would link to these, to show an example of what is out there.

http://store.blackforestindustries.com/suspension48.html
 

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Some here; had no problems with using poly in the new replacement "prebuilt" lower control arms, in the front of the car. I went with the heavy duty R32/TT bushings and the impregnated poly bushings from BFI. Just keep in mind with the poly; they squeak like crazy, unless you use the correct lube. I installed mine dry and they squeaked, then I put grease in them and the sound went away. I used the Energy Suspension Formula 5 Prelube Grease with excellent results.

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/formula-5-prelube-bushing-lube.asp

Having said; what I did, some have here purchased the "preinstalled" poly lower control arms and haven't complained about squeaks. These mentioned were the ones; offered by ecs tuning. I don't car for the ecs kits; as the parts do no seem oem and are low quality but they are an example.

Volkswagen New Beetle 2.0 Suspension Refresh Kits - ECS Tuning

I haven't hear anyone; really recommend poly, for the rear bushings on the rear trailing arms. Read the link above; for recommendations.

Keep in mind; if you modify things, you can get more noise, vibration, and harshness. The stock parts; are made for a soft and quiet ride, performance parts will come with positives and negative aspects to them. That is why; I have been trying, a oem "plus" approach, where you use heavier duty parts that come in the heavier and higher performing cars in the VAG line. Example of this would be the R32/TT lower control arm bushings and the Cupra R rear trailing arm bushings. Best of both worlds; performance and comfort.

To get you up to speed; the Mark IV Volkswagen platform (of which the New Beetle is part of); check out this "faq" section: look under suspension for good info:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5187132&p=69931705&viewfull=1#post69931705
 

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Well she is home at last save and sound! Ended up getting it even cheaper plus got the guy to transfer everything and pay the taxes :)

Long story short... I went there today cause they said they had the car running. Well turns out they were just jump starting it, I got there and we got it running but it was running horrible! I did get to drive it around the lot, tranny feels good from what I can tell, clutch feels strong and it actually drives smooth suspension wise.
I scanned the car it its coming up with cylinder misfire on all 4! That's the only codes it has. Looking further into it and turns out there is coolant in the oil plus tons of metal shavings! Head gasket! So she is in need of a new motor :(

I called Canada Catalyst Inc and they say there flooded with 2.0L's! Great! How much...? $200!!!!! What :eek:??? So a Big Thanks again to billymade for directing me there!!! Man I wish motors for the my eclipse were this cheap!! LOL. So at the price of $200 for an entire motor plus him going down on price quite a bit I decided I would save this little beetle :) Its a beautiful car with only 155,000 km on it, it's in great physical shape for its age, has all the options I could want plus almost new winter tires... why not?? :)

So boys it looks like I'm diving in head first into this not knowing anything about VW's, lol. But on the plus side I have a buddy that has done this a few times with the 2.0l and I'll get to know the car pretty well, so ill have some help. Motor swaps are nothing new to me, just vw's are.

I'm going to be picking up the new motor Friday and hopefully by Sunday she an't sick no more.

Also again thank you billymade for all the helpful info you linked, I spent all night researching suspension and bushings for these cars and spent all day calling around town for pricing, lol.

Looks as if I'm going with the audi tt rear bushing on the front control arms and new factory beetle ones for the front bushing. I also found a great deal on premium suspension and brake parts so I will be doing all new ball joints, tie rods (inner and outer), end links and brakes all around to start. Also going to get the poly sway bar bushings and trans mount. Not sure what I'm going to do to the rears yet I just need to do some more research.

Ill keep updating as I bring her back to life and as I know more.

Took some more pics of her at home now so I figured I would post, got the eclipse in there too :)

Thanks everyone! And please any advice is always welcome
 

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Wow, it sounds like you have allot of work ahead of you; I'm sure, that CanadaCatalyst will have any used parts you might need. You might see if they have some alloy wheels for cheap; there were quite a few different wheels that were stock VW alloys, that looked very good on our New Beetles. :)

Before, putting in the "new" 2.0L engine; I would recommend installing a high quality timing belt and water pump kit. CanadaCatalyst, maybe able to provide that as well but you can also, check out these guys for excellent kits they sell: www.blauparts.com
 

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I'm happy to see you are resurrecting this poor, neglected Bug.
Thank you for adopting it! :)
 

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Update:
Tomorrow morning I'm going to pick up the new motor and starter from Canada Catalyst and any other parts I may need. Iv been so busy helping a buddy/neighbour with his 64 Rag Top Impala that I have had zero time to even look at the beetle. So I will be going out tonight to take a look and see what I need to bring her back to life.

I got a fun day and week ahead of me as I bought a 400whp Eclipse GST off and old friend for a good deal, he doesn't care for it any more. I'm swapping the motor/trans/ecu and all the upgrades into mine and mine stuff into his so mine is built I can sell his to another buddy of mine. Reason for swapping is cause his isn't convertible :)

So basically Iv got three motors to swap by next weekend! Yikes!! Wish me luck, lol

Also thanks billymade on the tip to replace the timing belt and pump. The motor I'm picking up has 178k on it so it's probably best getting it out of the way and done.
 

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With that many miles; I would want a compression test on the engine before purchasing it or installing it. Are there any lower mileage engines available? It wouldn't take long to have 200k on the engine; it is cheap but high miles.


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Hello everyone I am back with updates

Bet you all thought I gave up, lol. Nope! I have actually been driving her since December, sorry I just haven't had time to post yet, just too much going on lately.

Anyway I ended up putting the new motor in with all new control arm bushings, tie rods, brakes all the way around, parking brake cables and guide tubes plus fixing some holes in the rockers. Passed safety and emissions test no problem.

In the time I'v been driving it so far it has been a blast to drive and it has kinda grown on me, I am using it as my dd to work and back plus winter car. I have had my hiccups with it tho.

First the alternator regulator went for **** two days in, so I bought a new one. One week later same ****, car just dies coming off the hwy on my way to work. So I called work to bring boosters and another battery just in case (I work for Interstate Battery's)
So my buddy gets there and we boost it, car starts.... ok sweet... but out the corner of my eye I notice the main power wire bolt on the alternator glowing red so I shut the car down.... Sit wait.... Try to start it again, it starts and on its own and no glowing bolt now???? I drive the rest of the way to work just fine till I pull into the parking lot and bam it dies again???
So I end up pin pointing it later on at lunch and the main wire from the top battery fuse box was all corroded like 6 inch's from the alternator not allowing it to charge the battery. Swapped out the factory wire for 4ga power wire and also replace the main power wire from battery to fuse box with new 4ga as well. Not a problem since!

So all is going good enjoying the beetle life up until a couple weeks ago and the water pump decides to go! Now this is where billymade can say I told you so! lol
So I ended up replacing the belt, tensioner and water pump, all is good now. :)

Now the cool stuff! I was deciding on either buying another car this summer or turning the beetle into something....
I decided to spend some cash on her since Iv already got most the maintenance out of the way.

The strut mounts are starting to make some noise now and the rear suspension seems to be very bouncy and worn out, so I order adjustable coil overs and all new strut mounts to replace it all with something more stiff, ordered up a set of eyelids to give it a cool look, also bought a full sq stereo set-up with 5" component speakers mounted in the dash, tweeters in the pilers, 6 1/2" Focals coaxials in the doors, Eclipse 12" sub, along with a mono and 4 channel amp and I got my hands on a set of 18" Rims with 225/40R18 all around, I plan on painting the rims to match with the car. I have a few other plans as well for the car this summer like cleaning up the engine bay or some painting and some interior stuff too.

So that's it for now, I will post pics of the car before the end of the month with all the new goodies installed as everything arrives in about a week :) I'm excited!!
 

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Wow, you have been very busy and have done a TON of work on your new ride; most everything you repaired, are very common issues with the New Beetle! Good job and I look forward; to seeing what you do next! :)
 

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The Sq stereo install on the beetle starts now :) Ill post some pics up when done, still have to build a custom box for the sub tho as I switched to a more clean sounding JL sub.
Got my buddy to let me use his body shop in order to have a nice spot to do it in as it's kinda cold and windy out today.

Look at my poor Eclipse beside the bug. It's been getting a complete restore all winter. Was silver now were doing a complete colour change to Carbon flash Metallic. :)
 

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We have more progress!
Got pics of the sound systems front stage that's going into the beetle. Got the front 5" Angstrom components installed in the dash, the Angstrom tweeters installed in the pillars and the wiring done aswell.
Also got around to installing the 6000k HID's and the yellow fog light bulbs I bought. Starting to look different now boys. :)
 

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Hope you find what you're looking for! Servicing Stop is another really good blogging site with updates all about different things to do with cars if you guys want to have a look :) P.S their main site also do Services/MOT's as well!
 
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