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Daughter has a 2002 Beetle. It will turn over, start for a second then die. I did notice the ESP light was on. Any thoughts or suggestions?
 

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Oooh I'm having the same problem - I've had the ESP light on for two weeks but VW specialist can't work out what it is even with his diagnostics tool - and won't start tonight same exact way, I've got a thread about it at the moment! Wonder if we've got the same issue? Keep us updated please!!

Here's the thread if you wanna have a look

http://newbeetle.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101274
 

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OK took it to the dealer, had me buy a new key. That didn't work. Said it was an encoder in the tumbler. special order from Canada and $350. That didn't work now saying it's in the cluster which is $600. WTF!! this is just crazy. anyone know anything about this?
 

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Hey, I have a 2002 Turbo S; I had a long term immobilizer problem and just recently, FINALLY got it repaired. In my case; it ended up being a combination of the ignition switch wiring and the speedo cluster was bad. Assuming; your problem is the speedo cluster/immobilizer that is inside it, they diagnosed it correctly. Having acess to a vw scanner like VCDS or a cheap one off of amazon, like the VS450 would really help, the typical code that goes along with this problem is:(immobilizer key icon flashing in the speedo cluster)

17978/P1570/005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17978/P1570/005488

You basically; have three options, when it comes to the speedo cluster immobilizer issue :

1. get a new/used speedo: $50-$150 on eBay or about $400-$500 new from the VW dealer. Requires key matching/coding, coding of the new speedo cluster and mileage transfer programming.

2. have the immobilizer removed from the ecu and that would be a work around the problem: $50 ian @ reflect tuning

3. ship out the speedo cluster and have it repaired: no key matching or programming needed, plug and play. (if you want to keep down your costs and have the immobiizer intact; probably the best bang for your buck)

The question; I would ask you is: do you want to have the immobilizer intact on the car or just get rid of it?

Here are some threads; discussing what I went through, to fix my car. Hope this helps; let us know, what you want to do and we will go from there.

There are four pages to this thread; so keep reading to the end:

immobilizer problem

http://newbeetle.org/forums/1-8-liter-turbo/61381-immobilizer-problem.html
 

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So I purchased a cluster from LQK online. What a journey that was. The first one was damaged as they were packing it. This was 3 days after I purchased it.Understandable, stuff happens. So I purchase another. Take it to the dealer late Thursday. Call them around 2ish on Friday. They say they are starting on it now. It will be an hour. Perfect, my commute home on Fridays is about 2 hours. Get a call back in an hour and was told the part I purchased was incorrect and he sent me an email explaining what I needed.

For your cluster needs part # 1C0920921 which supercedes to 1C0920951
The cluster you sent was part # 1C0920941L not correct.

Now, everywhere I have looked up this part it shows it's for a 2004-2005 and my daughters car is 2002. Holy moly I'm frustrated!
 

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So, did you want to keep the immobilizer intact? If not; you could send your ecu out and have the immobilizer deleted for $50, from reflect tuning. As i said before; you could have your original cluster, repaired... no coding needed, plug and play.
The cluster part # they listed; seems to be available as a new part in the $400-$500 range, brand new or $150 or less on ebay used.

Is your car; a Turbo S model?

https://www.google.com/search?q=vw+...tf-8#q=vw+new+beetle+speedo+cluster+1C0920951
 

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The vehicle had to be towed to the dealer, everything just snowballed. I'm going to have it towed back to my house and do the IMO defeat.
 
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