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I have a 2009 VW New Beetle Convertible and the passenger window and convertible top has stopped working. I noticed the other morning when I was rolling the window up it went up really slow. Then two days ago I noticed the window isn’t going up or down at all and the top doesn’t work either. I think the top not working is due to the window not functioning. I tried to do the resets I could find and nothing has helped. All three other windows will go up and down fine but not the passenger one. All other power appears normal to the door. The status will change for the top when it is unlocked and the other three windows will drop like they are supposed to but not the passenger one. I have it parked under my carport for now since the window is not seated under the top like it needs to be to keep water from getting in. Any other suggestions for me?
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Do you have a vw factory level scan tool like vcds by ross tech?


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Do you have a vw factory level scan tool like vcds by ross tech?


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No, I am trying to find a shop near me that may have one. Not sure I want to dump the money into one right now.
Something like vcds, can read trouble code and view live data for the convertible top and window regulators, etc.


Investing in yiur own vw scan tool; will save you in the long run, the better tools like bcds is $199, while the obdeleven is $69 and on amazon, some basic “vag” code readers are even as low as $20.
Something like vcds, can read trouble code and view live data for the convertible top and window regulators, etc.


Investing in yiur own vw scan tool; will save you in the long run, the better tools like bcds is $199, while the obdeleven is $69 and on amazon, some basic “vag” code readers are even as low as $20.
Will the obdeleven or the vag code readers give me the code for the window?
Seeing, how the functional ”problem” window is just on one side; I would assume, that is the cause or source, of your problem.

When the windows stop working, the most common failure, is the window regulator breaks on these cars; VW sells a repair kit and you could save allot of $, by repairing, installing installing the kit yourself.

www.parts.vw.com


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Yes, typically when a window regular or convertible top sensor fails; you will get a vw factory trouble code.


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I haven’t personally used that scan tool but it does seem to support vw’s, have some advanced features. Because most of these are Chinese knockoffs; you don’t really know; how well or if they work, are your particular VW, until you try it.

Note: at that $65 price range; you are at the same price for OBDEleven, which is more popular, widely used, which isn’t exactly perfect either. It is a more modern solution; as it has a wireless dongle that works with Android devices and has a downloadable app, which is actively being developed, easy to update.

Buying from Amazon, is a good idea; as you can try it out and return it, if you don’t like it or it doesn’t work?

Note: I use vcds by ross tech and have since 2007; i do not have any experience with these other vw scan tools. I also use a elm327 wifi dongle with apps like dash command or obdfusion; on my apple iPhone XSMax.


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To learn more about obdeleven; you might watch some reviews on youtube and also, review the videos on comparing obdeleven vs vcds, as well.


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I haven’t personally used that scan tool but it does seem to support vw’s, have some advanced features. Because most if these are Chinese knockoffs; you don’t really know; how well or if they work, are your particular VW, until you try it.

Note: at that $65 price range; you are at the same price fir OBDEleven, which is more popular, widely used, which isn’t exactly perfect either. It is a more modern solution; as it has a wireless dongle that works with Android devices and has a downloadable app, which is actively being developed, easy to update.

Buying from Amazon, is a good idea; as you can try it out and return it, if you don’t like it or it doesn’t work?

Note: I use vcds by ross tech and have since 2007; i do not have any experience with these other vw scan tools. I also use a elm327 wifi dingle with apps like dash command or obdfusion; on my apple iPhone XSMax.


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I unfortunately do not have anything that is android. The apple model is quite a bit more. And that is what I figured with Amazon being my best option to be able to return it if it doesn’t work. I have all apple products and one chrome book.
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Yeah, unfortunately, coverage for Apple is a. bit weak and then you are getting into the $100-$150+ range, pushing you into the $199 VCDS by Ross Tech territory.
Yeah, unfortunately, coverage for Apple is a. bit weak and then you are getting into the $100-$150+ range, pushing you into the $199 VCDS by Ross Tech territory.
Thank you for all of your help. I think I am going to go ahead and order that one from Amazon and give it a try. The worst I’m out is a couple of days if it doesn’t work. Thanks again
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Sounds like a plan; there are so many "vag" Chinese knockoff scanners, its hard to give a recommendation, until you try one. In the past, there were a number of basic VW scanners; that people, had ok luck with but there are so many more now, that have advanced capabilities, that I wouldn't recommend the older stuff (VAG U281, 305, 405, 450, etc.).

The ONLY real VW scan tool; that I have had substantial experience with and is the "real deal", is VCDS by Ross Tech, that is in the $199 price, for the starter enthusiasts kit.


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That is the code I got. Is my google research correct that I need to replace the control module in the passenger door? Also, is that a pretty simple job?
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Here is some good discussions about your trouble code and info; testing, viewing live data, see if the data bus is down, up and checking wiring, confirm power, no damaged harness, seems to be your next step.


This vw tech; seems to be referencing a bad door lock module; if wiring is ok.
I would check wiring for damage, and then; check the data bus status, if down, you could disconnect the plug to the door lock module and see, if the trouble code is restored and if the data bus is up communication status is restored.
Note: common problems we see: door lock modules fail, the wiring harness from the body to the door in the ribbed rubber sheath, flexes and the wires break, killing power to the door.

Another issue we see, is previous owners, installing used parts from junkyards; these can be incompatible, physically fitting fine but being incompatible, causing things to not work, killing the communication bus.
May sound dumb, but how do I check the data bus status?
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