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The quick and dirty:
Radios suck
Dedicated hardware = better
RAM iPad Floor Mount wobbles, stops pass seat from canting forward.

Solution:
Yank out radio
Install JL Audio Volume knob
Install Clarion Equalizer in glove box
Make wood block, screw a RAM Mount 3" base to it

This lets me use the 30pin connector for audio out, much better than the 3.5mm headphone jack. I get to ditch the bright radio with blinky lights, and gain a rock solid ipad mount that wont fly around and wobble when I drive crazy.

I plan to paint it black soon, maybe even fill it in and paint it white I'm not too sure.

I originally planned on a custom dash, deleting the radio + vents and putting in a ipad sized hole to slide it into, but that isn't future proof and I'd loose the vents. Before the floor mount blocked all of my fan controls, and the radio so I'd have to move that thing aside to turn the heat on or something.

The case/mount/arm is probably $60 total. I snapped the case a long time ago and used some JB weld or something to fix it which is why there's white putty all over it.

I also have a ScanGauge mounted under the emergency flasher above the cup holder, my volume knob is in the left dead button where most bugs have the seat heater controls.

The iPad isn't too high to block any windshield visibility either.

The car is a 00-TDI.


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7917675/Car/iPad%20Side.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7917675/Car/iPad%20Mount.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7917675/Car/ipad%20Mount%20Face.jpg
 

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Ok, I'll comment.

That's hideous. Massive screen right in front of your face like that, blocking the vents as well and it looks like its just been stuck there tbh. Put a decent head unit in and you have all the sound you want without the inyourface looks.
 

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Yeah I see your point, when you are in the seat though the pad is actually visually lower, I took the pic from the back seat looking through the seat top so I could get the whole dash in. I also don't sit with my chest two inches away from the airbag so for me it is actually a little farther than the steering wheel.

I did have a decent head unit; but considering my previous setup, why would I have spent $300 more on a decent HU and still let my ipad flop around on the old mount AND block the HU anyways?

Furthermore, why would I want to use technology from last century, when I could replace it with something better with way less buttons?

I know it isn't for everyone though, but for my setup it was the only option. I didn't want a silly touch screen HU with poor software, I like maps and not GPS, and I wanted it to be of a size where I could see it and also be secured to something and not suction cupped to the windshield.

I'll probably swap it out for an ipad mini though once the new ones come out.
 

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I'd think you'd have issues using the heat or air conditioning. Maybe the smaller iPad would be a better fit.

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Radio Delete -> Dash Mounted iPad

I wouldn't mind that in lieu of a radio. It would have all my music, I heart radio, and GPS too. Lot of possibilities there. I'd have to figure out how to flush mount it into the dash though.


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Radio Delete -> Dash Mounted iPad

Though it is blocking the vents, I wouldn't mine it in my car! I would love to have the touch screen!!


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I don't have AC, and heat in a diesel car is a joke. The side vents are more than adequate for airflow though.

The mini ipad would work nicely too, but the regular ipad really isn't in the way at all.

As for flush mounting you would have to delete the vents and the radio area, if you can flatten the face of the area you can just cut out a square slow and possibly slide it in from the top. That is how most people do in-dash mounts. I bought a second dash piece but it was a lot simpler just to use a block of wood.
 

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Radio Delete -> Dash Mounted iPad

Nice mod, using the iPad makes sense to me. I agree with the idea of flush mounting it for a more clean look.


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I like it. I can appreciate the angle towards the driver. This can't be done with a flush mount. Plus the ability to adjust the viewing angle for when the glare gets bad from the sun coming in from the videos.

iPads are notorious for having glare from their nice slick glass screens!
My only thing is I'm not sure if the sacrificing the radios functionality is worth installing a touch pad.

Also I'd like to see you have cover over the 2x4 look you got going ;) All you need is the standard plastic blank and cut a whole for the mount. Would look much cleaner!
 

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You don't really say, but how do you power the iPad? Is it drawing through the connector from a source, or do you need to remove the iPad from the vehicle to charge it?
 

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Haters gonna hate.


Nice job on the install. Your approach is similar to one I would take to ensure it's future proof, easily removable (to prevent theft), and accessible.

I'd like to know more technical detail on how you're driving the speakers. I have looked into doing something similar with an iPod, rather than iPad but ran into a wall trying to figure out how to clean up the dock connector piece and interfacing with amps, sub, etc. (need 6 channels for my setup)

When I got my TDI Bug in 04, within 24 hours I had torn out the interior and pluck the Monsuck out. I ran my own wire, dynamat, speakers, amps, etc. Factory wiring is still there in case I ever trade the car (not likely).
 

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Well the wood is mounted so far back in there you don't really see it at all. I really like this setup because I am going to get the ipad 5 when it comes out, and all I have to do is get a new holder-mount to fit the differently sized device. I could stick a mini in there too if I wanted.

For the connections I use:
Apple Composite AV cable, this cable also has a USB connector, which can be hardwired into vehicle power. This cable has the Red and White audio hookups which go to a JL Audio powered line driver. This is basically a volume knob which pre amps the signal with 5v or something. It is good. That all goes to my Clarion Eq, the EQ was maybe $50 on Amazon and works great. That splits the bass and the regular speaker signal. My second amp died, so I am running just an Alpine F300 or something. Front doors get 50 or 75w each, sub gets 150 bridged. The sum is a $50 kicker in a $20 pre made box off of amazon. It fits nicely in the spare area.

My system is cheap but I am happy with the sound. I would like to add rear speakers and get a dedicated alpine mono amp just for the sub, and get a better sub of course. This car isn't the best for sound quality so I don't want to mess with it too much, money is better spent elsewhere.

Anyways, I have a dock cable coming out, and one sound knob. No buttons, no lights, no blinky things, nothing. I do not have bass control, for that I need to open the glove and turn a knob. 95% of the time I just keep the bass where it is because my wife hates it.

Line driver: CL-RLC - Car Audio - OEM Interface - System Expansion - JL Audio
EQ: Amazon.com: Clarion EQS746 1/2 DIN Graphic Equalizer with Built-in Crossover: Car Electronics

A few audio "pros" said I wad an idiot for not only using a sub-$700 eq, but also thinking that I need one. In this car I can't crank up metallica or anything with high pitched noises (NWA/old rap) without my ears bleeding. So for me it allows me to kill the highs, turn off all bass, and boost the mids. This bypasses my amp's crossover and does what I think is a better, or at least a more controllable job.
 

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I think something like this but with a Galaxy Note II would be even better because then you'd have telephone functionality. It's also not as large so wouldn't block so much of the dash.

And then... if you could figure out some kind of armature to have that Note II fold into the bay where the Radio once lived...

With a Note II and a good data plan, assuming good data connectivity you could tune into Internet radio like Pandora or whatever is your choice. Built in GPS and navigation from Google.
 

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my biggest problem with all these builds and products is that these dumb smart phones and tables get outdated it seems faster and faster so you end up building something into your dash that is out of date in 6 months. I've thought about it a bit and honestly the only nice solution would be if someone just did a touchscreen and was able to interface it with something like an ouya that way in 8 months instead of having to refab a dash because you upgraded you could just replace the brains behind it.
 
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