And Al, FWIW, I sincerely Do admire how ToD started just a few years back and grew quickly. For whatever reason, TSD has hit too many bumps and isn't even close. Part of that could indeed be me and my lack of promotional skill, but what is seriously missing in any semblance of TSD planning is dialogue. People start talking up ToD and to a lesser extent, RTR for weeks prior to those respective events, and then, even for a while afterwards. Conversely, I have to pull teeth to get more than 3 people talking about TSD, at least on FB. A HUGE pet peeve of mine is being ignored, and for reasons that baffle me, this seems to be normal FB protocol. People have come to believe that not responding to an invitation is the same as saying either, "not interested," or "not sure." I get my hopes up when 2-3 people say something like, "Yeah, this sounds cool, tell me more about it," then nothing, either for weeks or never again. It's not just TSD, either. I've run into the same trouble in a couple of Passat/All-VW FB groups as well. Put simply, the art of RSVP no longer applies, and that is something that really, really, upsets me. To me, a non-response/failure to follow up is a blow-off, Period. The first thing I look at when I go onto FB is Notifications, especially those from specific groups. So whatever you guys did with ToD worked. As for my attempts at putting stuff together? Not so much.....No matter how busy someone may be or how much of an other life they may have outside of VW stuff, it takes no more than 10 seconds to type something like, "Not sure, or "Sorry, I can't make it." To add, if they're not looking at their notifications to check updates to a specific event, then in my book, they're not really interested in it in the first place.