Bumpas

 

might be the soft touch paint starting to peel up on the area. not much you can do to fix that other than get it all off and refinish.

 

It doesnt look like it is about to peel, it looks like swipes that someone was in a hurry and didn't rub it in or rinse it off. I am going to try more soapy water and then I will just live with it. Anyone else have any ideas???
Thanks!

 

Just dump some Armorall on the unaffected areas and let it sit over night! :crazy:

 

Just cover it up with a Bug Dash Cover. Its snaps into place. I have both flat and vertical dash covers available. This was one of the problems I sought to eliminate with this product. You can scrub and scrub and those swirl marks will not be totally eradicated. The cap polymer on top of the ABS plastic of the dash has been degraded with the plastic directly below. My plastic dash covers in comparison are made with a cap that has three times the UV inhibitor properties than that of the factory dash.

www.thebugdash.com

 

Just cover it up with a Bug Dash Cover. Its OEM and snaps into place. I have both flat and vertical dash covers available. This was one of the problems I sought to eliminate with this product. You can scrub and scrub and those swirl marks will not be totally eradicated. The cap polymer on top of the ABS plastic of the dash has been degraded with the plastic directly below. My plastic dash covers in comparison are made with a cap that has three times the UV inhibitor properties than that of the factory dash.

www.thebugdash.com

Since when is an aftermarket product OEM?

 

Go get yourself some unscented baby wipes and clean thoroughly with those. That should get off the gunk.

Then, if you want to protect it, get a product like Prima Nero. Spray it on a cloth and wipe it on.

 

I was wondering about that. I don't care for adding something to cover the dash with. If you do that enough, you end up with a big mess.

 

Like I said, Baby wipes should clean it up.

If you can post any pics, that would probably help us diagnose.

D!

 

Ok I took some pics but the only ones that show the swirls are the ones I took through the windshield. notice the swipe marks...

 

Dash Cover

Customers have told me it looks OEM. The polymer Korad has inhibitor measurement three times greater than than of the OEM dash. I can post the link it you would like.

 

Customers have told me it looks OEM. The polymer Korad has inhibitor measurement three times greater than than of the OEM dash. I can post the link it you would like.

Having customers tell you it LOOKS OEM does not MAKE it OEM.

Selling it as so, is absolute fraud.

It's great that you are excited about your product. But please be very careful in how you market it. You're being quite fraudulant in what you are saying about it.

 

Scott, How about a salvage yard trip to replace the panels, then strip yours or resell them here for someone who wants to do a paint experiment?

Rodney's are scratched, and I have replacements..as soon as I install them, I'm going to list my old ones here in case someone wants to play with paint.

 

Thanks beej, thats not a bad idea, I will have to make a visit to the junk yard...

 

Have you tried Dawn dish detergent?

 

Yes, I tried Dawn full strength. My wife says it helped, I can't tell a difference..I will go back and do it again.

 

Dash Cover

You be the judge. Scientifically its better than the garbage VW will give you. I don' t mislead anyone. Its a great looking alternative to dash replacement and/or preservation; thats the bottomline. I have sold over three hundred and not a one has been returned. A great sign that the product is great. Many happy customers to date and many more to come. The proof is in the pudding. Check out the ebay feedback.

 

You be the judge. Scientifically its better than the garbage VW will give you. I don' t mislead anyone. Its a great looking alternative to dash replacement and/or preservation; thats the bottomline. I have sold over three hundred and not a one has been returned. A great sign that the product is great. Many happy customers to date and many more to come. The proof is in the pudding. Check out the ebay feedback.

I'm not saying your product is garbage. However, you also shouldn't state VW's product is garbage. Most of us like their product, so your statements aren't making you any friends here.

Also, no matter how good the quality of your product is, you are being fraudelant in how you sell it. Plain and simple. It's fraud. You do NOT sell an aftermarket product by telling people it's OEM. Maybe you need to do some research before making such claims. Again, your insistence on lieing to potential customers isn't making you any friends.

 

I said the feedback from customers is that it has OEM quality. I don't represent it as OEM that would be Fraud. No where in my advertisements or site will you see OEM. I say garbage because if you want a dash cover VW will steer you towards a carpetted cover; which is an inferior product and why I designed the dash cap I sell on this site.

Ebay Feedback

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=thebugdash&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

My Dash Covers are Thermoformed from ABS plastic with a Korad Cap. A coating that exhibits Superior UV inhibitance on all environmental conditions. Its the same material used in the US space Program for the shuttles. If its good enough for the space program then it should be more than adequate for the new beetle. I have attached the link and the properties of the material for all to see.
Korad One of the Best Polymers for Plastics on the Marketplace

http://www.spartech.com/plastics/abs_sheet.html


SP -9011
Korad® Capped ABS



SP-9011 combines the toughness of high impact ABS with the weather resistant features of Spartech PEP Korad film, which is laminated to the prime surface of the sheet. SP-9011 provides high impact strength, and UV resistance, yielding a value engineered weatherable sheet product.

Korad® Cap SP-9011 Data


Test
Condition Units Value
Specific Gravity ASTM D792 g/cm3 1.04
Tensile Modulus ASTM D638 psi 310,000
Tensile Strength ASTM D638 psi 6,000
Flexural Modulus ASTM D790 psi 340,000
Flexural Strength ASTM D790 psi 10,000
Izod Impact ASTM D256
(73°F, -40°C) Ft-lbs/in. 7.5
2.5
Falling Dart Impact ASTM D3029
(73°F, -40°C) Ft-lbs 33
12
Heat Deflection Temperature
Hardness ASTM D648
ASTM D785 °F
Rockwell R 198
5.0
Gardner Gloss
Flammability Rating
ASTM D523
MVSS 302
UL94HB
%
99
Passes
Passes

Superior Resistance Values I must admit.

 

I said the feedback from one customer is that it has OEM quality. I don't represent it as OEM that would be Fraud. No where in my advertisements or site will you see OEM. I say garbage because if you want a dash cover VW will steer you towards a carpetted cover; which is an inferior product and why I designed the dash cap I sell on this site.

Edited for truth.
Didn't think anyone'd bother checking, eh? Also, you only sold 36 of them on eBay - it's hard to believe you've been able to flog 10 times as many off-eBay.
And I find your claims of UV protection highly suspicious as well. The material is "thermoformed ABS plastic " as you say in your auctions.
There is no mention of any polymer or other coating specifically meant to protect it from UV.
Unlike the original VW dash, that's coated in that annoying rubbery crap that actually does do that :eyecrazy:
Lastly, I have that 'carpet' dashmat you dislike so much. I picked it over your product because it's completely matte and gives NO reflection unlike the original VW dash (even with that matte rubber coating) and unlike your dashcover that has no matte coating at all.
I drive a lot of sunrises and sunsets and actually find the 'carpet' one both practical and decorative with all the nice stitching on it.
Turn down the arrogance a little, you didn't invent penicilin Just a pricey hunk of garden-variety plastic.

@Beetlescott: Back2Black from Mother's applies quite streak-free on the dash - a bottle of that is much cheaper to try than some other products I could mention

 

Cool Thanks.,

Revised For Truth


You are skeptical. I admire that. I catch the majority of my sales through online retailers, craigslist, and direct from the site. Ebay is actually a tiny minority. I thought it would be more myself. However, in time I believe it will increase with the new beetle owners trying to fix up their cars. Thanks for the stats its actually over 110. I only started using the username thebugdash in July. That and a lot of people don't take the time to leave feedback so its probably higher; which breaks down to 8-10 per month. Also not to mention the deals around ebay, second chance offers, and my phone #. Not bad. The fact that they have all been positive is reassuring that its a great product. By the way carpetted covers are not bad. However, once you get a Bug Dash its hard to settle for anything less. When over 100 customers tell you its OEM-like through email, phone calls, and feedback then you start believing it.




PS. I'm very humble. Just happy to have sold over 300 in the first year given this tough economic climate. I'm trying my best to get them out there because I know if will lead to more sales. Its a seeing is believing product. I realize that. Its just a simple accessory that will improve your driving experience and allow further customization. Thats it; we are not reinventing the wheel here. However, you can make up your own reality to fit your own end needs amd justifications. Me, I'm happy as a clam

Thanks and Have a Nice Day

"Improving Each and Every New Beetle Owners Driving Experience One Dash Cover at a Time"

 

What I did about mine.

I have a 2002 Turbo S Reflex Silver. I really got tired of the dash where the gauges are so if you have seen a RSI beetle. I sanded it with 320 sand paper. Then apply the color you want. I used Duplicolor spray paint and it looks great. It cost me around 20 bucks. And for the dash part your talking about you wont have to sand. Just use some Acetone for prep to clean it off.

 

This thread has nothing to do with that aftermarket piece of stick-on plastic. Please return to the original poster's issue of scratches on his OEM dash.

Rather that 'cover it up', I think he was looking for an actual solution.

btw, editing your post wasn't effective since it had already been quoted.
"Just cover it up with a Bug Dash Cover. Its OEM and snaps into place."
"I don't represent it as OEM that would be Fraud."


Moving back to original topic though:
Scott: If the cleaners can't help it, the dash may actually be scratched through the top finish.

 

Scott: If the cleaners can't help it, the dash may actually be scratched through the top finish.

Agreed. My dash is the same way, courtesy of a low-buck sun shade that I put in my window this summer. Eventually it'll bother me enough to make a dash cover from some low pile carpet.

 

my dash had some residue from some "stuff" a detailer used on it. it didn't want to come off. so i soaked the dash in blue magic from zep and it seemed to get better.

but i've been toying with the idea of wraping the dash panels in some sort of plaid latley.

 

A few posts back Beej asked if you had used Dawn, dish soap. I am curious, what does Dawn do? Does it smooth out scratches? I have scratches on mine too, and am looking to try to improve them without removing the dash and repainting or recovering.
Thanks

 

I don't think Dawn did anything for mine. The swirl marks are still there.

 

Thats the horrible truth about the dash. No matter what products you use, and I used them all in trying to restore my dash from damage inflicted by the original owners I could not get rid of the swirls, discoloration, and scratches. I tried everything and spent a lot of money. The only options after research were to replace it with new parts purchased from VW parts at a astronomical cost and pay for the labor for them to be installed or use a carpet cover to cover it. I thought there must be a better solution that this.

 

Thanks but I will work on the swirls, like I said, I'm not interested in using a cover. I have some great things to try here thanks to all the NB friends...

 

Dash Replacement

No problem. If the cleaning products don't work then at least you know you have an affordable alternative to replacement.

 

No problem. If the cleaning products don't work then at least you know you have an affordable alternative to replacement.

Quit spamming your product! You've already made fraudulent claims which you only retracted when we called you out on it, you continue to claim huge sales numbers for the damn thing which are completely unsubstantiated, and you keep talking about how "humble" you are, which is a blatant lie when combined with the above!

You've pissed me off enough that even if I might have considered buying your product before I certainly won't do so now, and I imagine a bunch of other people reading this feel the same way. In other words, you're only hurting yourself. Therefore, I humbly suggest that you STFU unless you have something constructive to say (such as the first paragraph of your most recent post). And speaking of that post:

For the Record I mistyped. I didn't mean to represent it as OEM.

"For the record," you damn well did mean exactly that, and you know it!

 

Cleaning

Back to black is one to avoid. The swirls in your dash are an indication that the protective polymer coating of the plastic is gone; i.e. no uv inhibitor. This happens after repeated exposure to the sun, heat, and elements. Just like when scratches penetrate the clear coat of a paint job. Check to see how strong the cleaner is before use. Only use a tiny amount to be on the safe side and see if there is an improvement. Otherwise too much could chemically alter the plastic and then it will really look like Garden Variety plastic.

For the Record I mistyped. I didn't mean to represent it as OEM. At least I have numbers in the court of Public Opinion though. No big deal.

 

Scott, when i used to deep clean detail my bug's interior. I used some laundry detergent in a water filled bucket and a rag on basically everything on the interior othe rthan the carpet/seats. of couse being careful around the switches and radio. but it always came out perfect. wax the painted door sills afterwards too.


i read that you used dawn already, so this might not help at all. but it's still a good thing to do yearly, or twice a year.

 

Last post of the subject.

I was invited to post by beetlescott. He messaged me wanting to know what to do about the swirls in his dash and wanted a dash cover. I was sent a link to the thread in pm. So my input was requested. Sales #'s are accurate. I have posted technical information for those inclined. I don't know any garden variety plastic used on a space shuttle. So that disproves that worthless argument. I typed OEM when I meant like-OEM. My mistake; however, a typing error doesn't constitute fraud. No where in my ads or site will you see OEM. The covers are very close in texture and all physical attributes. Everyone is real happy.

I presented a real solution to the problem that in the long run is more cost effective than spending a lot of money on cleaners and solutions only to end up in the same position. I've tried it so I know. In my frustration I've designed a product that helped solve the problem for me. I sold them to other owners in the area you liked them. So I thought there might be a demand for them. I feel the need to defend myself against lies spread from other users who first have never seen, owned, or used the product.

For all of those interested The Bug Dash is Profiled in the upcoming December Issue of Styling and Performance Magazine. There is a whole article about the VW aftermarket community and various products are highlighted. The Bug Dash (SEMA member)

 

I'm sorry, but I didn't PM you and ask you to come here and take over my thread. I have told you now for the third time, I am not interested in your product. I didn't ask you about any swirls in my dash. I don't know where you get off. I did ask for a price on your product, which, after investigating, I wouldn't have for free. Please don't drag me into this argument!!!!